[Pvgreens-discussion] Re: [GPOC] Fw: green party and cjpe

[sandylemberg at juno.com]

I am sure that this is true in certain cases, but we do have a legal
opinion that says there are cases in which is it safe. We should obtain
full detail on this.

Many people have made general statements, but saying something many times
does not make it so.

Sandy

On Mon, 8 May 2006 21:12:55 -0600 "Lisa Olivas" <lolivas at frii.com>
writes:
> Sandy,
> 
> Both the political party and the Not-For-Profit could be fined by 
> the
> Secretary of State, and the Not-For-Profit lose its filing if there 
> were
> collaboration involved between the two.
> 
> Lisa 
> 
> "Decide what you want, believe you can have it, believe you deserve 
> it, and
> believe its possible for YOU."  - Jack Canfield
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pvgreens-discussion-bounces at pvgreens.org
> [mailto:pvgreens-discussion-bounces at pvgreens.org] On Behalf Of
> sandylemberg at juno.com
> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 7:10 PM
> To: CLAIRERYDER at cs.com
> Cc: will at walters-consulting.com; grns-gpoc at greens.org;
> pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org
> Subject: Re: [Pvgreens-discussion] Re: [GPOC] Fw: green party and 
> cjpe
> 
> 
> Yes, we knew this about 501c3; I thought  you had some info with 
> which we
> were unfamiliar.
> 
> Nevertheless, I believe that this "Alliance of Justice" goes 
> overboard on
> this. Sunny has expressed her legal opinion that they are at least 
> partially
> wrong.
> 
> Sandy
> 
> On Mon, 8 May 2006 14:07:54 -0600 "Claire Ryder" 
> <claireryder at cs.com>
> writes:
> > Excuse my typo!!!  I am human :)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Will Walters [mailto:will at walters-consulting.com]
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 2:03 PM
> > To: sandylemberg at juno.com; CLAIRERYDER at cs.com
> > Subject: RE: [Pvgreens-discussion] Re: [GPOC] Fw: green party and 
> > cjpe
> > 
> > It's a "501c3", not a "502c3".  Section 501(c)(3) is shorthand for
> > the
> > federal law (IRS code) defining non-profit organizations to which 
> > donations
> > are tax deductible.  Bottom line is, the express purpose of a 
> > political
> > party, as defined in section 527, is fundamentally incompatible 
> with 
> > the
> > allowed purposes of a 501c3 organization.  If a
> > 501c3 does anything with a political party, they could lose their 
> > tax exempt
> > status.
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the applicable actual law from Title 26, the Internal 
> Revenue
> > Code
> > (see www.law.cornell.edu/uscode):
> > 
> > Section 501 - Exemption from tax on corporations, certain trusts,
> > etc.
> > (a)  Exemption from taxation
> > An organization described in subsection (c) or (d) or section 401 
> > (a) shall
> > be exempt from taxation under this subtitle unless such exemption 
> is 
> > denied
> > under section 502 or 503.
> > ...
> > (c)  List of exempt organizations
> > The following organizations are referred to in subsection (a):
> > ...
> > (3) Corporations, and any community chest, fund, or foundation, 
> > organized
> > and operated exclusively for religious, charitable, scientific, 
> > testing for
> > public safety, literary, or educational purposes, or to foster 
> > national or
> > international amateur sports competition (but only if no part of 
> its
> > activities involve the provision of athletic facilities or 
> > equipment), or
> > for the prevention of cruelty to children or animals, no part of 
> the 
> > net
> > earnings of which inures to the benefit of any private shareholder 
> 
> > or
> > individual, no substantial part of the activities of which is 
> > carrying on
> > propaganda, or otherwise attempting, to influence legislation 
> > (except as
> > otherwise provided in subsection (h)), and which does not 
> > participate in, or
> > intervene in (including the publishing or distributing of 
> > statements), any
> > political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any 
> candidate 
> > for
> > public office.
> > ...
> > Section 527 - Political organizations
> > (a)  General rule
> > A political organization shall be subject to taxation under this 
> > subtitle
> > only to the extent provided in this section. A political 
> > organization shall
> > be considered an organization exempt from income taxes for the 
> > purpose of
> > any law which refers to organizations exempt from income taxes.
> > ...
> > (e)  Other definitions
> > For purposes of this section-
> > (1) Political organization
> > The term "political organization" means a party, committee, 
> > association,
> > fund, or other organization (whether or not incorporated) 
> organized 
> > and
> > operated primarily for the purpose of directly or indirectly 
> > accepting
> > contributions or making expenditures, or both, for an exempt 
> > function.
> > (2) Exempt function
> > The term "exempt function" means the function of influencing or 
> > attempting
> > to influence the selection, nomination, election, or appointment 
> of 
> > any
> > individual to any Federal, State, or local public office or office 
> 
> > in a
> > political organization, or the election of Presidential or 
> > Vice-Presidential
> > electors, whether or not such individual or electors are selected,
> > nominated, elected, or appointed.
> > Such term includes the making of expenditures relating to an 
> office
> > described in the preceding sentence which, if incurred by the 
> > individual,
> > would be allowable as a deduction under section 162 (a).
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: pvgreens-discussion-bounces at pvgreens.org
> > [mailto:pvgreens-discussion-bounces at pvgreens.org]On Behalf Of 
> > sandylemberg at juno.com
> > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:13 PM
> > To: CLAIRERYDER at cs.com
> > Cc: grns-gpoc at greens.org; pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org
> > Subject: [Pvgreens-discussion] Re: [GPOC] Fw: green party and cjpe
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks. Can you explain this? I don't know anything about 502c3's.
> > 
> > Are you from the FC area?
> > 
> > Sandy
> > 
> > On Mon, 8 May 2006 12:08:30 -0600 "Claire Ryder"
> > <claireryder at cs.com>
> > writes:
> > >  This probably applies mostly, if not solely, to 502c3's which I
> > know
> > > Cheryl's group happens to be.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: grns-gpoc-bounces at greens.org 
> > > [mailto:grns-gpoc-bounces at greens.org] On Behalf Of 
> > > sandylemberg at juno.com
> > > Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:00 PM
> > > To: pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org; grns-gpoc at greens.org
> > > Subject: [GPOC] Fw: green party and cjpe
> > >
> > > We have a serious problem in that other groups don't want to 
> work
> > with
> > > us on the basis of our being a political party.
> > >
> > > Sandy
> > >
> > > --------- Forwarded message ----------
> > > From: Cheryl Distaso <distaso at frii.com>
> > > To: <sandylemberg at juno.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 08 May 2006 10:42:21 -0600
> > > Subject: green party and cjpe
> > > Message-ID: <C084D10C.DD50%distaso at frii.com>
> > >
> > > Hey Sandy-
> > > I just spoke to Alliance for Justice, and they recommended that 
> we
> > do
> > > not organize and event or otherwise work on an issue with the
> > Green
> > > Party. It seemed that I was told otherwise a while back, but I
> > can't
> > > remember the details, so I guess we'll just have to go with the
> > > current information.
> > > Sorry. This also applies to getting the word out over the big 
> > list.
> > > Peace,
> > > Cheryl
> > >
> > >
> > >
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