[GPOC] [Pvgreens-discussion] pro~choice has no choice

[Karen Treanor-Brown]

oooo - I like the Babo Pray picture! very good.
as always when a group of any ilk comes together on issues, we often find 
it's for very different reasons and with many different takes on what should 
be. talking is good=solidarity - eventually.
K


>From: LBolt <rcripes at netzero.net>
>To: Karen Treanor-Brown <k_l_treanor_brown at hotmail.com>
>CC: sandylemberg at juno.com,  hkopp at frii.com,  
>pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org
>Subject: Re: [GPOC] [Pvgreens-discussion] pro~choice has no choice
>Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:35:48 -0600
>
>Finally checking in as well . . .
>
>Guess I don't understand the internal consternation since it seems that 
>most everything gets changed for the better a small step at a time. I 
>should think that we are more realistic than the lesser of argument, 
>especially since we don't have a candidate. At this point, it may be too 
>late anyway. Nothing will ever be perfect - just have to continually work 
>toward it, yes?
>
>In my opinion, NOT voting for Ritter is akin to handing a vote to Babo Pray 
>(he'll clean things up right religiously) on a silver platter.
>
>- Larry
>
>Karen Treanor-Brown wrote:
>>Loveland Green checking in
>>have read discussion with interest in this eternal dilemma. sent some 
>>basic info to Green "down south" who is about to announce candidacy, who 
>>responded with analogy that doing the lesser evil vote is like giving 
>>money to a junkie - it just encourages the habit and changes nothing for 
>>the better. thought it was interesting and worth passing back to all.
>>Karen
>>
>>
>>>From: sandylemberg at juno.com
>>>To: hkopp at frii.com
>>>CC: CLAIRERYDER at cs.com, 
>>>grns-gpoc at greens.org,pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org
>>>Subject: Re: [GPOC] [Pvgreens-discussion] pro~choice has no choice
>>>Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:36:52 -0600
>>>
>>>On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:02:36 -0600 (MDT) "Hollie Kopp" <hkopp at frii.com>
>>>writes:
>>>
>>>"The current political situation has noting to do with the "lesser
>>>evilism" strategy as it is so dramatically termed."
>>>
>>>The reasoning of this statement eludes me completely.
>>>
>>>Since at least the end of WWII, liberals have fought tooth and nail to
>>>elect right wing Democrats such as Truman. This has moved the political
>>>"Center" in the US from a position between the Left and the Right to a
>>>position between the extreme Right and even further to the Right.
>>>
>>>It is common wisdom, for example, that the political stances of Clinton
>>>were well to the Right of the political stances of Nixon.
>>>
>>>This is lesser evilism. By continuing to obediently vote for the Right
>>>wing candidates which the Right puts before the electorate, Liberals have
>>>disenfranchised the Left. There are simply no candidates on the Left to
>>>vote for.
>>>
>>>The only way to break this cycle is for progressives to refuse to vote
>>>for right wing candidates.
>>>
>>>This relates directly to the matter of Green independence from corporate
>>>politics. Part of the reason I have still not responded to Doug's version
>>>of the declaration of independence is my inability to understand what is
>>>meant by the claim that lesser evilism does not exist.
>>>
>>>Sandy
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