[GPOC] [Pvgreens-discussion] pro~choice has no choice
LBolt
rcripes at netzero.net
Fri Jun 23 12:35:48 MDT 2006
Finally checking in as well . . .
Guess I don't understand the internal consternation since it seems that
most everything gets changed for the better a small step at a time. I
should think that we are more realistic than the lesser of argument,
especially since we don't have a candidate. At this point, it may be too
late anyway. Nothing will ever be perfect - just have to continually
work toward it, yes?
In my opinion, NOT voting for Ritter is akin to handing a vote to Babo
Pray (he'll clean things up right religiously) on a silver platter.
- Larry
Karen Treanor-Brown wrote:
> Loveland Green checking in
> have read discussion with interest in this eternal dilemma. sent some
> basic info to Green "down south" who is about to announce candidacy, who
> responded with analogy that doing the lesser evil vote is like giving
> money to a junkie - it just encourages the habit and changes nothing for
> the better. thought it was interesting and worth passing back to all.
> Karen
>
>
>> From: sandylemberg at juno.com
>> To: hkopp at frii.com
>> CC: CLAIRERYDER at cs.com,
>> grns-gpoc at greens.org,pvgreens-discussion at pvgreens.org
>> Subject: Re: [GPOC] [Pvgreens-discussion] pro~choice has no choice
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 20:36:52 -0600
>>
>> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:02:36 -0600 (MDT) "Hollie Kopp" <hkopp at frii.com>
>> writes:
>>
>> "The current political situation has noting to do with the "lesser
>> evilism" strategy as it is so dramatically termed."
>>
>> The reasoning of this statement eludes me completely.
>>
>> Since at least the end of WWII, liberals have fought tooth and nail to
>> elect right wing Democrats such as Truman. This has moved the political
>> "Center" in the US from a position between the Left and the Right to a
>> position between the extreme Right and even further to the Right.
>>
>> It is common wisdom, for example, that the political stances of Clinton
>> were well to the Right of the political stances of Nixon.
>>
>> This is lesser evilism. By continuing to obediently vote for the Right
>> wing candidates which the Right puts before the electorate, Liberals have
>> disenfranchised the Left. There are simply no candidates on the Left to
>> vote for.
>>
>> The only way to break this cycle is for progressives to refuse to vote
>> for right wing candidates.
>>
>> This relates directly to the matter of Green independence from corporate
>> politics. Part of the reason I have still not responded to Doug's version
>> of the declaration of independence is my inability to understand what is
>> meant by the claim that lesser evilism does not exist.
>>
>> Sandy
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